There two ways of thinking about the ontology of logic.
1. First there is the idea that the rules of reason are the rules of Being. C.S. Lewis defends this idea in “De Futilitate” (in Christian Reflections). He’s arguing against the scientific reductionist. Science, says Lewis, depends on deductive reason. Inductive reason is all well and good, but without deduction it would be impossible to prove anything: Suppose we prove that all masses are attracted to one another by an inverse square law. Does this rule out the possibility that all masses are not attracted by an inverse square law? Only if we assume the law of non-contradiction. Without that, and without deductive logic in general, saying “x is true” won’t tell us that x is not false.
Since our scientific knowledge is capable of describing things in far off galaxies, we must conclude that our deductive logical forms of reasoning are valid just as much for those far off galaxies as for here on earth. Indeed, if our “human reasoning” forbids something, then that thing cannot happen even in a far off galaxy. Which means that our “human reasoning” is not really specifically “human” at all. Rather the rules of logic are written on the face of the universe. Reason is the legislator of the world. So Lewis argues.
But I say, Where is God in all of this? Either 1a) God created logic or 1b) Logic is above God 1c) Logic is God. All three of these are problematic
1a) If God created logic then He Himself is above logic, so logical principles don’t apply to him. For all we know, God could be both A and not A. But this would make theology impossible. The idea that God is omnipotent means nothing unless it rules out the idea that God is not omnipotent. This means that if we read in the Bible that God is almighty, we should not assume that he is not weak. If God is above the law of non-contradiction then God could be both weak and omnipotent at the same time.
1b) If logic is above God, then God is not the ultimate authority in the universe, he must bow before logic. And something other than God is eternal. But God is the ultimate authority, and he created everything that is, except Himself.
1c) If logic is God, then we ought to worship the law of non-contradiction, sing hymns to the principle of excluded middle, fall down at the feet of modus ponens, and offer up praise and thanksgiving to the complex destructive dilemma.
I think the underlying problem with this way of thinking can be best described by way of a metaphor that Lewis uses. In dealing with an objection to his view (the objection says that we can reason about the universe because the universe produced our minds), he points out that the gulf stream produces many things, including the temperature of the Irish Ocean, but it does not produce maps of the gulf stream. My response to Lewis is to point out that the gulf stream does not obey the laws of cartography.
Obeying the laws of cartography allows our maps to be accurate, even maps of distant lands, but this is not because those distant lands obey the same rules as our map-makers. The rules make possible the act of representing things. They don’t order the things represented. The same is true of logic. If we want to speak and think accurately we must obey the rules of logic, but not because the things we talk and think about obey those same rules. Rather, the rules make possible the activity of talking and thinking about things.
2. This brings me to the second way of thinking about the ontology of logic: The idea here is that logic is merely conventional rules of language, or at most a contingent feature of human mentality, not of all mentality as such. God’s mind is not ruled by logical principles. If God speaks, then he’ll take up the conventions of whatever language he uses, including its logical conventions. But he doesn’t need them himself.
According to this view, logically necessary truths are devoid of content. They are no more universal than the rules of chess. If you want to play chess then you need to obey the rules of chess, but no one says you have to play chess. And if you want to think or talk about things, then you have to obey the rules of a certain “language game”, but no one says you have to play that game in the first place. Maybe this particular language game plays an important role in the life of our society; even more than, say, the rules of parliamentary procedure. In fact there are people who don’t obey the rules of reasoning (we call them lunatics). Although most people who are able to play the game will, since it helps them get along in society, nevertheless the rules of the game are merely conventional. Or maybe we are psychologically determined to play this kind of game with each other. Still the rules of this game don’t tell us anything about the world as a whole, only about a contingent feature of human psychology.
On the one hand, I think it is right to see logic as expressing the rules of a certain kind of “game” or activity. What this view misses is how astounding it is that we can play such a game. Why should it be possible to produce sentences that are true about ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING. Logic, you see, gives us the ability to engage in unrestricted quantification. This is a fancy way of saying that the “game” of speech/thought includes the word “everything”. Not only that, but logic assures us that certain predicates are true of everything. Absolutely everything either is A or is not A. This holds for God as well as for created things. But, why?
There is a passage in Ernst Cassirer’s book, entitled An Essay on Man, in which he recounts the story of how Hellen Keller first learned to use language. Her teacher had often signed out certain words on her hand, but Hellen Keller never really understood the point of those signs, she never saw them as words, until one day, while pumping water, her teacher signed “water” on one hand while Hellen Keller felt the cold water pouring over her other hand. She was startled. Taken aback for a moment. Then, suddenly she became very excited. She asked for what word meant her teacher. She asked how to say grass. She asked and asked and asked, as if she wanted to know what everything was called. A whole world was opened to her. Before, she could only conceive of what was immediately present in her experience. After, she could cognize a universe, and her mind could even pass beyond the universe to the ultimate source of all being. To think. How is it possible? Why is it possible?
When I wonder about the ontological status of logic, I keep coming back to this question: What is it about Being that it should be capable of being represented?
Lack of faith?
Not meaning to be a punk, but I'm thinking you're asking a psychological/anthropological question.
i'm interested in your thoughts on it.
Posted by: JosiahQ at September 11, 2003 5:03 PMPlease pardon my ignorance as I ramble. I'm your basic high school dropout, with no idea what I'm talking about.
In the first point, you ask 'where is God in all of this?' I tend to think that your 1c description is too simplistic. I can state that God is love, God is Holy, God is just, etc... without worshiping those specific attributes, if we would be inclined to claim logic as such. However, I can't say that I would put logic as an atribute of God.
Logic in the deductive method seeks to reach conclusions from the inference of available facts. Inductively, logic breeds hypothysis and theory. Both forms begin with the premise that there was knowledge not known prior to the logical process. Such is an impossibility within omnicient Being.
But the idea that logic is merely convention seems to me to step on the sovriegnty of Being. If two persons with using two different languages were to postulate on a single premise, could they not reach different logical conclusions? How could both be truly logical? If this viewpoint is correct, then it makes no sense that there can be logical absolutes that transcend all languages.
Being that I'm thoroughly unschooled, I can say in all ignorance that logic and law seem to have much in common. Can logic, both deductive and inductive, be not unlike the nature of mechanical law? If Being defines all existence, can man possibly have comprehensive logic?
Theognome
Posted by: Theognome at September 12, 2003 12:57 AMFirst I need to reread and contemplate much more.
Having a problem with 1a and your refutation. May be a problem of definition or perception. I'm not sure that God can't be weak. Does weakness denote(right word?) non-omnipotence. Going to the cross and dying seems to be quite weak but out of that weakness came redemption and regeneration for those who believe. I'm thinking that maybe we're talking about different definitions of weakness; I guess I'm poisoned by the John Wayne mentality that is so pervasive in our culture. If Jesus had come in guns blaring that would have been strong but the cross thing is weak.
I'll think more on this.
Posted by: ColeSlaw at September 13, 2003 12:20 PMI am not sure there is necessarily a problem with your 1a, namely, God creating logic. It seems to me that God could be above logic--with logical principles not applying to him--and this not really pose a difficulty for theology.
You say that "the idea that God is omnipotent means nothing unless it rules out the idea that God is not omnipotent." But I think that this blurs a distinction between God's being and our knowledge of his being. The issue here is not the status of God's being or attributes. It is our ideas that we are dealing with. Your phrase could be rewritten to say "our idea that God is omnipotent means nothing unless it rules out our idea that God is not omnipotent." And this helps show how our adherence to logical rules doesn't create problems for God's being. As you write, "For all we know, God could be both A and not A." Right, he COULD. But I think it's safe to say that his reasons for being or not being certain ways have less to do with our logic and more to do with his will.
I guess I can distill my argument and say that it looks like logic has to do with mental content, not states of affairs in the world. And in the end, I don’t think we need the satisfaction of thinking that God necessarily adheres to logic, even if he might choose to do so (as in his revelation of scripture).
As a final note, I don’t think you can say that “absolutely everything either is A or is not A.” Supposedly, superpositions of states in quantum physics show that for some sub-atomic particles, the state of a particle is clearly not either A or not A (so to speak). Its state is vague until disturbed—that is, measured. Putnam has an interesting piece (from what I can understand of it) on the implications of quantum mechanics for logic.
Chris understands the physics (and logic) way better than I do, but I think that Paul is hinting at more profound logic-mangling than quantum effects actually force. It's not that non-contridiction is overturned, just that you have to redefine some concepts to understand that the apparent contradiction isn't one. Electrons are A in the sense of being a solution to the Heisenburg equation, not A in the sense of being right there.
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Posted by: JosiahQ at September 23, 2003 10:31 AMOK, Josiah, OK.
Lang, yeah that's about what I'd say about quantum physics.
To Paul I say, I like Putnam's stuff, but I don't know the piece you're referring to. There seems to be a confusion here: 1a is part of 1. The notion that God created logic is only a problem if we think of logic a ruling over things rather than over mere mental concepts. I take it you're view falls under my number 2 rather than number 1.
To ColeSlaw: let "weak" denote "non-omnipotent."
(As a matter of fact, I don't see how Christ's death could be called weakness in any sense: he laid his life down, it was not taken from him against his will. On the other hand, Christ did have certain weaknesses insofar as he was human, but that doesn't mean he is weak insofar as he is divine, which is what the question is about)
And to my most revered (but perhaps overly self-deprecating) comentator, Theognome: you have correctly identified the weakest part of my argument: my criticisms of 1a-1c (especially 1c) are very sketchy and way too fast. In the background is the idea that God is not distinct from his properties. God's wisdom is not something that gets added on to God, the way Socrates's wisdom is added to Socrates. God's wisdom is God himself. To say "God is not wise" is to say "God is not God." You find this notion all over patristic and medieval theology.
I'm not clear on what the rest of your comment is getting at.
And to Josiah: I haven't the faintest idea what you are trying to say with your first non-sentence: "lack of faith" ??? Who lacks faith and what does this have to do with what I wrote?
The anthropological question: "Given that reality is the sort of thing that could in principle be represented, how are human beings in able to go about representing it?" is interesting, but not what I'm asking. I'm asking: how come reality is even capapble of being represented in the first place? What is representation anyway and why is it so pervasive in its domain? It's as if I asked not why a certain shoe fits, but why shoes are the sort of think that can "fit" at all? What is it for one thing to fit another?--why are shoes "in space"? What's up with that three-dimensional manifold we are so familiar with?--why is space the way it is?
Posted by: Christopher McCartney at September 25, 2003 4:37 PM